mayor, i'm going to read president obama's words. we're going to close an important captainer in this tragedy. is it a tragedy or a terrorist attack? >> a terrorist attack. the president has a kind of crew femmistic way of dealing with these. he did say it at one point. this is not a tragedy. a tragedy is something awful that happens that we have no control overment katrina is a tragedy. sandy is a tragedy. natural disaster. a deliberate attack for a purpose, even if we don't know the complete reason for the purpose, this is an attack. this is like pearl harbor wasn't a tragedy. >> if you call it a tragedy -- >> september 11 wasn't a tragedy. it was an attack on the united states of america. this was an attack on boston and the united states of america. >> if you call it a tragedy, it allows other people to generate sympathy for the suspects. >> sure. >> the president did that. but i'm saying that happens in the media. >> all right. we'll have to go, unfortunately. we enjoyed having you here. >> i enjoyed it very much. >> directly ah